Really the reason the mafia won was because of town stupidity and missed opportunities. For example, Greo wasting his shifter hit on me? What a dumbass. And then Hobos the LAST shifter giving away his shifter identity to Horde. And then the final 3 being people that all should have died much earlier in the game.
There were many times where I've called for the death of all 3 of them so when it comes down to all three of them as the final 3 it's not that easy to pick the right one. Especially when you have viet being incredibly stupid the whole game and DM being suspicious the whole game and the shitty clues which always accompany Ezday. Seriously, I looked back at the other mafia games and there are never any good clues for ezday.
From Mafia 3
The grey sedan was a reference to EzDay281's avatar. He also gets lame clues, but they improve later on.
Anyway as I was always saying in the beginning of the game YOU HAVE TO KILL THE INACTIVE AND STUPID PEOPLE FIRST.
And devilesk did posthumously figure out the heap of number clues pointing at EzDay (it was hard to make clues pointing to him, but I abused his other nickname being "Garbeld").
I had some good ones before I died, especially that Mafia 4 20th member one. I thought it was a strong possibility especially after I figured out the 3:24 one as well. It was even stronger after SiN died.
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Then again, #20 on the mafia player list in Mafia 4 is [color=#CE091D]EzDay281
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Nude dying from electrocution from an arc welder -> electricity -> lightning/thunder -> pikachu -> cheeze.
Users reading this topic: devilesk, Greo, A_of-s_t, EzDay281 (plus 2 guests)
I bet there's a mafia in that list
EzDay281
Ezday's aim contains the word "tempest" and on day 1 the scene is described as "A gentle rain bathes the houses and businesses and gradually intensifies. There is no thunder or lightning, but enough rain to keep most folk indoors." Now that isn't exactly a tempest, but there's a weather connection
Looking at the clues from the different days/nights there seems to be a repetition of the use of blades. There's also a repetition of the reflective sunglasses mentioned in day 1 and day 2.
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Could the choice of arms be connected to anything? Explosives and digital timers?
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Anyway as for the clue. We've actually had some pretty good interpretations. Look back to when me and A of st were talking. I believe Dark_Marine and EzDay are strong suspects and whoever else we mentioned.
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BTW HEEGU I SEE YOU READING THE TOPIC FOR A WHILE NOW. NICE LURKING.
Hmm, and thinking of Heegu, I just took a look at his profile and avatar. He has a picture of
Link. Link's weapon of choice is a sword, aka
blade. And it seems like blade has been an often used weapon in the Mafia killings. Weapons master as well?
And going along with taking inactivity as a reason for suspicion, performing a search of Heegu's posts only turns up a small 2 posts. Neither of which contribute much.
SEN Mafia VII: The 7 Shifters
Jul 4 2008, 3:32 am
Heegu
So many choices.. I'll just go with the bandwagon. Doodle77
Jul 7 2008, 1:29 pm
Heegu
Quote from Paravin.
4th and 20th member?
Too obvious. Member # clues have never done anything good as far as i know.
And he also might be following the PRO MAFIA TIPZ in the former post.
MAFIA -> Know when to jump on bandwagons against fellow Mafia. Suspicious voting patterns can give you away. Technically, you can just disappear the whole game (and might be better off playing under the radar), but make sure your hits don't give you away.
Also, if history indicates anything it's that the whole "grimer" interpretation of Doodle has been used before in Mafia 6: Mindfuck. Also in Mindfuck Doodle was a member of mafia. I'm not sure whether we should take this to mean Moose and DTBK wouldn't be dumb enough to reuse clues or not or if the same thing would happen twice. Anyway, I'm just pointing out that it's been pointed out before.
This might be an epic breakthrough, but maybe all of the mafia are in clan [MM]
http://www.staredit.net/clan/2/Farty is one of the leaders. Is there any connection to moving and clan MM? "The Shifters" and clan MM or modding?
There might be a whole clue->mod theme/connection going on here.
Oh wow, there's a whole bunch of explosive stuff in this upload by FlyingHat.
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Devilesk, stop posting super posts. You're going to a point where you're using what a person says as clues, and at that point anything a person says can make them Mafia, including you. They are not all in clan [MM], either. Right now, there's three obvious Mafia suspects: Doodle, Dark_Marine, and Zombeh. I change my vote to Doodle for now.
Heegu: Weapons Master
Zombeh: Moving in swarms, dead of the night
Doodle77: Protecting Farty, lots of clues
Farty1billion: Protecting Doodle, Shown to be Mafia, the Millions clues
WoAHorde: Mask
DarkMarine: Suspicious, wearing large round shades
Frazz: ???
My posts are epic, stfu. You guys should actually read them.Epic garbage, yes. I have read them.Yea, sure. We'll see when Moose and DTBK reveal the clues that will show that I was right.
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Overall, a fine cover is provided for murderous mischief.
Murderous Mischief -> MM
And when I convert 50000 to roman numerals I get
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
"mayoral mansion" another clue leading to MM.
"mafia member" (from day 3) = MM
"mysterious man" = MM
"militia men" = MM
"mafia membership" (night 1) = MM
"many more" (night 2) = MM
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HE SEEMS SINCERE! ALRIGHT EVERYONE BANDWAGON SOMEONE ELSE.
HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT.
I VOTE DOODLE77.Only a mafia would do that.
I'm starting a new bandwagon. I change my vote to EzDay281.
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I find echo to be more suspicious then hobos. Only slightly though. However, there are more suspicious people than the ones you posted Zell.
Looking at the voting patterns so far there are four that I have down as being pretty suspicious.
Vi3t-X because he hasn't voted once.
cheeze because his only vote was on day 1 for DTBK
Heegu because his only vote was on Day 2 for Doodle
EzDay because he abstained on day 1, voted for Dapperdan on day 2, and abstained again on day 3
FatalException because he abstained the first day, voted for Nude the second day, and did not vote the third day
Echo because he's the only one that voted for someone that was killed the following night. This was on day 1 for Hailfire, but he changed his vote to Darkling. This is only a very slight suspicion, which I couldn't ignore, but it's very debatable.
I'm also not sure how suspicious it is for the people who changed their vote twice for a day. These people include Greo and Zell.
Here's a list of people that have voted for another person currently alive.
frazz -> Dark_Marine
Greo -> WoAHorde
Greo -> Dark_Marine
EcHo -> FatalException
Zell -> FatalException
Now, I'm pretty sure that until this point no mafia would vote for another person that's mafia, but that's the only thing you can be sure of, and not that I mentioned it it we can't count on it any longer.
In conclusion, except for the first four people I mentioned, it's not clear how voting pattern should be interpreted. Many of the other people voted for the people who were eventually lynched that day, or voted for people that would be lynched in the future. It's hard to label it as suspicious when you idiots came up with "obvious" clues pointing to the person such as OMG DOODLE HAD 7's IN HIS NAME.
However, I definitely think Vi3t-X and cheeze should die.
Session Start (devilesk:cheeZe477): Mon Jul 14 03:04:55 2008
[03:04] cheeZe477: LOL
[03:04] cheeZe477: you and dtbk are like lovers
[03:05] devilesk: lol
[03:05] devilesk: you're mafia
[03:05] cheeZe477: ya
[03:05] cheeZe477: did i vote?
[03:05] devilesk: no
[03:06] cheeZe477: why am i not listed in your 1 person list of people who did not vote.
[03:06] devilesk: cuz
[03:06] devilesk: i was just pointing out someone who didn't vote
[03:06] devilesk: ever
[03:06] devilesk: although you're up there since your one vote out of 3
[03:06] devilesk: was for DTBK
[03:06] devilesk: which is dumb
[03:06] cheeZe477: dapperdan is good at mafia. you can't doubt him.
Session Close (cheeZe477): Mon Jul 14 03:07:12 2008
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EzDay because he abstained on day 1, voted for Dapperdan on day 2, and abstained again on day 3
Behavioural analysis without studying the person's past behaviours = hard fail.
Now, I'm pretty sure that until this point no mafia would vote for another person that's mafia, but that's the only thing you can be sure of, and not that I mentioned it it we can't count on it any longer.... that's one of the more obvious two-level tactics available, and is oft-mentioned during vote-browsings. Your mentioning it hasn't done anything, and you're now just trying to discredit no-less-plausible suspects.Oft-mentioned. Show me some previous examples of it,
mr veteran mafia player.
And it's interesting how now you decide to show up and post.
Anyway, you're still useless.EL OH EL
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I think I agree that Horde is mafia. The spy avatar is from team fortress 2 and as you said it has a mask.
Zombeh seems to be an overdue lynch candidate, but who knows. So does Dark_Marine.
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I think Night 3 is the work of a ninja.
What clues do we have on him? The flanking on is really forced, because not everyone can obtain such information about him and there are other melee players.
Edit: Oh, just noticed your post. It's a bad habbit of mine to skip any posts you make that are not written in capitals.
The electricity clues is a good one, but inactivity and stupid behavior are definately not reasons to lynch someone. Don't let those who don't really care about the game fool you.
How does wine relate to cheeze?There's a really stupid connection to it. I'm sure Devilesk will point it out, but you usually enjoy cheese and wine together.APPARENTLY IT WAS A STUPID CONNECTION. LOL OWNED.
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Kill cheeze first.
What clues do we have on him? The flanking on is really forced, because not everyone can obtain such information about him and there are other melee players.
Edit: Oh, just noticed your post. It's a bad habbit of mine to skip any posts you make that are not written in capitals.
The electricity clues is a good one, but inactivity and stupid behavior are definately not reasons to lynch someone.Don't let those who don't really care about the game fool you.
How does wine relate to cheeze?There's a really stupid connection to it. I'm sure Devilesk will point it out, but you usually enjoy cheese and wine together.It's not a stupid connection. History has shown us that there's usually a connection between what a person is doing right before they die and who the mafia are.
expedient erectionexpedient -> expedia -> flying -> flyinghat
Or "erection" could have some kind of sexual meaning.
I think the case for WoAHorde being swarm is VERY strong.
"This town is now ours," replies one of the mafia, removing his mask and drawing a silenced pistol.As he adjusts his
tie, seven clicks of guns are heard from around the entire space of the transaction. The spy in his avatar has a MASK and a SILENCED PISTOL and a TIE.
The last support class is the spy, who in addition to a revolver is equipped with covert tools, such as a temporary cloaking device, an electronic sapper to sabotage engineer's structures and the ability to disguise as enemy players. The spy can also use his butterfly knife to backstab and instantly kill enemy players.[7]
The mafia fire their guns first, taking the militia group by surprise. Hynk flips over and down on to the ground, caught in the initial stream of bullets. Merrell turns and fires as NerdyTerdy runs for cover while shooting. Both of the two militia men cannot hit their mafia targets as Merrell flops to the floor, his life claimed in the exchange of gunfire. NerdyTerdy gets the gold star for smart tactics as he crouches behind a car for cover. Unfortunately, NerdyTerdy exposes himself for too long to return fire. Long enough for a weapons master to finish the defeat of the townsperson group.This paragraph is reminiscent of the American Revolution.
Horde's post in the Asians vs British topic:
http://www.staredit.net/73568/British. Why? Newton was British. Hawking was British. The greatest schools in the world, Cambridge and Oxford respectively, are in England.
I'm British blood(directly) but I'm not going to use that as a reason, derive it yourself.
Note: Krazy, you fail at spelling British in the poll option.
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WHERE'S THE ACTIVITY GUYS? COME ON.
Also for those that doubt the dtbk drinking wine in a cool cellar connection to cheeze.
From Day 4
Merrell was having a late night snack as his windows started to break.
Moose's clue reveal
Paragraph 3: Merrell's late night snack is... jello! Jello-Jigglers, actually.
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Also, I'm sure Moose put in some kind of clue that relates to some kind of movie/film or something from IMDB. History tells us that.
Quote from "Day 5"With a bit of overconfidence, perhaps arrogance, the mafia set out once again after sunset. The first victim of the night was frazz. He was out late partaking in some risky business when he was stabbed in the back. Frazz, too, had a knife as well and scored a few hits on the mafia, but didn't really cause much damage. In the end, the mafia simply had all the right moves, and was down frazz was out after a few minutes of combat.
LoL @ Tom Cruise => KRUSE movies. I should've gone with the newer ones maybe.
Also lame wordplay clues like:
The last victim of the night was A_of-s_t, who was driving around in his ambulance sipping cogna
c. As he approached an intersection, the traffic signal pole fel
l. He was crushed, blood camoflauged by the traffic light's red signal aur
a. He was pinned, and knew he would be a dead man soo
n. Giving up, he felt his life slip away into darknes
s.
Spelling "clans"DAMNIT I WAS WAITING FOR ONE OF THOSE FIRST/LAST LETTER OF EACH SENTENCE SPELLS OUT A MAFIA PLAYER. BUT I JUST DIED THAT DAY.
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WOW LAME.
Wow Greo, you never told me you're a shifter. You're such a noob.
Damn, JaFF and A of St were the shifters who I knew.
[12:49] Moose (Domain expired, leave me alone): Things aren't going to look good for "HEY EVERYONE I KNOW WHO TWO SHIFTERS ARE IF THE OTHERS COULD CONTACT ME...."
[12:49] devilesk: lol
[12:49] devilesk: i thought about that
Last shifter, please contact me.
I bet Greo zombies me. :-_-:Wow Greo you are a big fucking noob. Way to waste your boondock hit on me you stupid noob.
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Uncannily, the same well-forged, short, curved sword from yesterday's lynching is produced, and Paravin. is beheaded.
I believe the sword used in these killings is this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WakizashiMost likely used by a ninja, FatalException.Owned.
5The way the scene is depicted is pretty much the way it played out - both Greo and A-of_s-t were selected as mafia hits, and Greo attempted to hit devilesk, but was hit by the mafia before he could. It wouldn't have worked anyway, since A-of_s-t was using his Doctor power to protect devilesk, which would have overridden the Saint hit. Instead, though, the mafia kill them both while they are debating the fate of devilesk. I don't know if devilesk ever knew how close he came to dying that night.Well I knew I would be targeted, so I told A of st to use his doctor abilities on me. I didn't know it was GREO though.
(3) - again, the feed has been GarbeldI looked at "dancing snow" and this caught my attention
http://garbeld.deviantart.com/art/The-Dancers-56499253I had a feeling that due to the lameness of the possible clues related to ezday that the Garbeld->Garbled play on words would be used.
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